Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/25/1999 01:39 PM House FIN

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 GENERAL SUBJECT(S): OVERVIEWS:                                                                                                 
                     Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation                                                                   
                     Alaska Science and Technology Foundation                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
The  following overview  was  taken  in log  note  format.   Tapes  and                                                         
handouts will be  on file with the House Finance  Committee through the                                                         
21st Legislative Session, contact 465-2156.  After the 21st Legislative                                                         
Session they will be available through the Legislative Library at 465-                                                          
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 Time Meeting Convened at 1:39 p.m.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Tape HFC 99-29, Side 1 and 2                                                                                                 
 Tape HFC 99-30, Side 1                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
                                    X      Representative G. Davis                                                            
        PRESENT:                                                                                                              
 X      Co-Chair Therriault         X      Representative Foster                                                              
 X      Co-Chair Mulder             Absent Representative Grussendorf                                                         
 X      Representative Austerman    X      Representative Kohring                                                             
 X      Representative Bunde        Absent Representative  Moses                                                              
 X      Representative J. Davies    Absent Representative Williams                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT:                                                                                                              
 PAT LADNER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA AEROSPACE DEVELOPMENT                                                                   
 CORPORATION, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT; JAMES                                                            
 KENWORTH, PHD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY                                                               
 FOUNDATION; LEIF SELKREGG, RISE ALASKA; GEORGE KING, HUDSON IAPF,                                                              
 PROJECT MANAGER, RISE ALASKA; LAURA GOULD, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS,                                                             
 ALASKA AEROSPACE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION; LARRY PRICE, LOCKHEED                                                                
 MARTIN; MICHAEL MACHULSKY, CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ALASKA                                                                
 AEROSPACE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION; LARRY PRICE, DIRECTOR, SMALL                                                                
 LAUNCH PROGRAMS, LOCKHEED MARTIN CORPORATION.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 LOG   SPEAKER             DISCUSSION                                                                                       
 OOO   HFC 99-29, SIDE 1 ALASKA AEROSPACE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION                                                           
       Co-Chair Mulder     Convened the Committee at 1:39 p.m.                                                                
       MICHAEL MACHULSKY, Provided members with backup material.                                                                
       CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF Attachment 1, Athena System Launch,                                                                   
       DIRECTORS, ALASKA Lockheed Martin (copy on file).                                                                        
       AEROSPACE           Attachment 2, Economic Effect of the                                                                 
       DEVELOPMENT         November 1998 Launch on the Kodiak Island                                                            
       CORPORATION         Borough and on the state of Alaska (copy                                                             
                           on file). Attachment 3, 1999 Business                                                                
                           Plan, Alaska Aerospace Development                                                                   
                           Corporation (copy on file).                                                                        
 183   Mr. Machulsky       Gave a brief overview of the history of                                                              
                           the Alaska Aerospace Development                                                                     
                           Corporation (AADC). Noted that recent                                                                
                           legislation increased the Board of                                                                   
                           Directors by four members. Listed Board                                                            
                          members (contained on page 3 of Attachment                                                            
                          3.)                                                                                                 
332   Mr. Machulsky       Funding for the Kodiak Launch Complex was                                                             
                          received last year. First launch facility                                                             
                          on private property in U.S.                                                                         
393   Mr. Machulsky       Pointed out that the Kodiak Launch Complex                                                            
                          is about creating the infrastructure in                                                               
                          the state for a new industry. Road and                                                                
                          communications improvements are the result                                                            
                          of the project. Additional federal funding                                                            
                          is coming into the state as the result.                                                               
                          There has been a positive affect on                                                                   
                          education in the state.                                                                             
546   Mr. Machulsky       Discussed Alaska Aerospace Development                                                                
                          Corporation's (AADC) business plan.                                                                   
                          Observed that projections are                                                                         
                          conservative.                                                                                       
590   PAT LADNER,         Noted that AADC is statewide. Emphasized                                                              
      EXECUTIVE           that there are several ground stations in                                                             
      DIRECTOR, ALASKA    addition to the launch facilities.                                                                    
      AEROSPACE           Stressed the use of data collected by                                                                 
      DEVELOPMENT         remote sensing. The Department of Natural                                                             
       CORPORATION,        Resources can use the data to track                                                                  
      DEPARTMENT OF       erosion and beetle infestations.                                                                      
      COMMERCE AND        Municipalities can use the data to assess                                                             
      ECONOMIC            growth. Data can also be used for GSI                                                                 
      DEVELOPMENT         mapping.                                                                                            
780   Mr. Ladner          Discussed the Challenge and Learning                                                                  
                           Center in Kenai.                                                                                   
840   Mr. Ladner          Discussed the Kodiak Launch Complex. Noted                                                            
                          that money was brought into the state from                                                            
                          the launch. Emphasized that value added                                                               
                          industry will result from the presence of                                                             
                          the Lockheed Martin Corporation.                                                                    
907   Mr. Ladner          Stressed that it is time to transition                                                                
                          from construction to marketing. Discussed                                                             
                          launches that will occur in the next few                                                              
                          years.                                                                                              
979   LAURA GOULD,        Discussed the Kodiak Launch Complex's                                                                 
      DIRECTOR OF         budget. She emphasized that it is critical                                                            
      OPERATIONS, ALASKA to finish the complex to solidify their                                                                
      AEROSPACE           contracts. Alaska Aerospace Development                                                               
       DEVELOPMENT         Corporation has a 40 million-dollar                                                                  
      CORPORATION         budget. They were successful in using $5                                                              
                          million dollars from an  Alaska Science                                                               
                          and Technology Foundation (ASTF) grant to                                                             
                          get $30 million dollars in federal funds.                                                             
                          They still need a $5 million dollar, non-                                                             
                          general fund, and capital appropriation.                                                              
                          Discussed other funding possibilities.                                                                
                          They are working with the Alaska Science                                                              
                          and Technology Foundation. The Alaska                                                                 
                          Industrial Development and Export                                                                   
                           Authority (AIDEA) reviewed their finance                                                             
                           plan and concluded that their assumptions                                                            
                           were correct.                                                                                      
 1119 Ms. Gould            Noted that ASTF indicated that they would                                                            
                           accept a grant application for the last $5                                                           
                           million dollars.                                                                                   
 1157 Ms. Gould            The economic impact from the first launch                                                            
                           at the Kodiak Launch Complex was $1.3                                                                
                           million dollars in sales. They expect that                                                           
                           there will be a greater impact from future                                                           
                           launches. The first launch was small and                                                             
                           did not have a satellite.                                                                          
 1210 LARRY PRICE,         Talked about the launch vehicle and where                                                            
       DIRECTOR, SMALL     Alaska stands as a launch site.                                                                    
       LAUNCH PROGRAMS,                                                                                                         
       LOCKHEED MARTIN                                                                                                          
       CORPORATION                                                                                                              
 1240 Mr. Price            Reviewed Attachment 1. One third to two-                                                             
                           thirds of the missions are at high                                                                   
                           inclination site. Plans to fly a mission                                                             
                           for NASA in August.  The Kodiak Launch                                                               
                           Complex is a high inclination launch site.                                                         
 1327 Mr. Price            Reviewed page 3, Attachment 1. Noted that                                                            
                           there is a significant amount of money                                                               
                           invested in the Athena program. Kodiak is                                                            
                           a natural site to follow Florida                                                                   
 1361 Mr. Price            Discussed page 4. Their program is in                                                                
                           Space and Strategic missiles, Electronics                                                            
                           area of the Lockheed Martin Corporation.                                                           
 1394 Mr. Price            Discussed page 5, Athena Overview. The                                                               
                           Athena Launch Program was designed to fly                                                            
                           up to 12 vehicles. There are 4 launches on                                                           
                           the current manifest. There are plans to                                                             
                           construct an Athena III. Pointed out that                                                            
                           there is growth potential at Kodiak Launch                                                           
                           Complex.                                                                                           
 1481 Mr. Price            Discussed page 6, Athena Flight Successes.                                                           
                           Discussed success of Athena flights. 80                                                              
                           meters per second velocity, highly                                                                   
                           successful. Only used two of three burns.                                                            
                           They had propellant to spare. Discussed                                                              
                           the Lunar Prospector. Noted that it was                                                              
                          highly successful.                                                                                  
 1537 Mr. Price            Discussed ROCSAT-1. It was built for the                                                             
                           Taiwanese government. It was also highly                                                             
                           successful. Anticipate other missions that                                                           
                           would fly from the Kodiak Launch Complex.                                                          
 1661 Mr. Ladner           Discussed page 7, Launch Sites. Reviewed                                                             
                           other launch sites. Noted benefits of                                                                
                           Kodiak. There is a commercial facility and                                                           
                           commercial pad in Kodiak. Stressed that                                                              
                           they are comfortable with schedule of                                                                
                           construction and costs.                                                                            
1744 Mr. Price            Stated that there have been a number of                                                               
                          studies as to the size of the market.                                                                 
                          Observed that it is hard  to assess because                                                           
                          it is an emerging market. Market surveys                                                              
                          indicate that there will  be as many as 800                                                           
                          missions over next 10  years. They estimate                                                           
                          that there will be 200 in the next year.                                                              
                          Their business plan estimates  that they                                                              
                          will have 80 missions over the next 10                                                                
                          years. Anticipates 2-8  high inclination                                                              
                          missions. Launch vehicle is ready and                                                                 
                          launch site supports the  schedule. They                                                              
                          are working with NASA.                                                                              
1892 Mr. Price            The market is changing to smaller                                                                     
                          companies, not all government  missions.                                                              
                          Last year was the first year where there                                                              
                          were more commercial then government                                                                  
                          launches. Observed that government                                                                    
                          launches are fully funded. Commercial                                                                 
                          launches can be fully  or partially funded.                                                           
                          The are working on capability to enhance                                                              
                          desirability of Kodiak Launch Complex.                                                              
1955 Representative G. Asked the extent of competition.                                                                       
      Davis                                                                                                                     
1978 Mr. Price            There are other facilities. Discussed                                                                 
                          competition. There are  two pads in Russia.                                                           
                          Others do not have missiles  of the same                                                              
                          class.                                                                                              
2006 Representative G. Questioned the importance of the Kodiak                                                                  
      Davis               Launch Complex.                                                                                     
2017 Mr. Price            Noted that there is good coverage at high                                                             
                          latitudes. Launches from  Florida do not                                                              
                          get as far north or only  reach northern                                                              
                          latitudes after many cycles.  Kodiak Launch                                                           
                          Discussed advantages of the Kodiak Launch                                                             
                                                                  nd                                                            
                          Complex. It has a clear ocean to drop 2                                                               
                               rd                                                                                               
                          and 3 stage segments.                                                                               
2076 Co-Chair Mulder      Pointed out that high inclination launches                                                            
                          can service the entire United States.                                                               
2105 Mr. Price            Discussed high inclination north to south                                                             
                          launches.                                                                                           
2128 Mr. Price            In response to a question by                                                                          
                          Representative Bunde, explained that they                                                             
                          need a 50-mile down range to drop stages.                                                             
                          Aircraft need to keep clear.                                                                        
2157 Mr. Price            Noted that there is a lot of marine                                                                   
                          traffic in Florida. They  usually launch at                                                           
                          night.                                                                                              
2175 GEORGE KING,         (Rise Alaska provides project management                                                              
        HUDSON IAPF, RISE at the Kodiak Launch Complex. Their                                                                   
       ALASKA              contract extends to December 1999.)                                                                  
                          Discussed status of work  in progress to                                                              
                          take maximum advantage of market. Pointed                                                           
                           out that financing has become an issue as                                                            
                           the market has split from noncommercial                                                              
                           (government) to commercial launches.                                                                 
                           Discussed how they are trying to position                                                            
                           AADC to be competitive in the market.                                                              
 2260 Mr. King             Discussed efforts to secure bonding                                                                  
                           through AADC bond authorization revenue                                                              
                           bonds. They are creating letter of credit                                                            
                           revenue bonds to allow financing for                                                                 
                           commercial launches. This would eliminate                                                            
                           risk to the state of Alaska. Pointed out                                                             
                           that there is no general fund money                                                                  
                           involved. Bonds are not related to                                                                   
                           infrastructure, but to launches.                                                                   
 2322 Mr. King             Noted that they are working with the                                                                 
                           Lockheed Martin Corporation to use the                                                               
                           Kodiak Launch Complex as their launch                                                                
                           site. Alternative financing will make the                                                            
                           Kodiak Launch Complex more attractive.                                                             
 2348 Mr. King             The have identified a portion of the                                                                 
                           federal tax code that prevents tax exempt                                                            
                           financing. He noted that this section                                                                
                          could be changed.                                                                                   
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 078   Co-Chair Mulder     Asked the number of firms that might be                                                              
                           interested in taking advantage of a                                                                  
                          financing package.                                                                                  
 0136 Mr. Price            Stated that there are about five a year                                                              
                           that are high inclination candidates. He                                                             
                           estimated that a revenue package could                                                               
                           enhance their competitive position on 14                                                             
                           of launches over the next three years.                                                             
 160   Co-Chair Mulder     Pointed out that the state is not at                                                                 
                           financial risk.                                                                                    
 180   Mr. King            Emphasized that the state is insulated                                                               
                           from risk because it is a letter of                                                                  
                           credit.                                                                                            
 212   Co-Chair            Clarified that financing is an inducement                                                            
       Therriault          to business in Alaska                                                                              
 248   Mr. Price           Noted that high inclinations launches and                                                            
                           financing separates Kodiak from Russia                                                             
 303   Mr. King            Satellite companies are coming out with                                                              
                           short timeframes when they put out bid                                                               
                           requests. Satellite companies are                                                                    
                           customers of AADC and the Kodiak Launch                                                              
                           Complex. Foreign launch sites are their                                                              
                           greatest competition because of subsidizes                                                           
                           by foreign governments.                                                                            
 426   Co-Chair            Noted that a vehicle is necessary to                                                                 
       Therriault          deliver the product to space. Pointed out                                                            
                           that the Lockheed Martin Corporation has                                                             
                           made an investment in the Kodiak Launch                                                              
                           Complex.                                                                                           
496   Representative J. Asked how stiff is the competition and how                                                              
      Davies              important is the change in the tax code?                                                            
520   Mr. King            Stressed that the tax code change is very                                                             
                          important. Tax exempt financing rates are                                                             
                          the lowest available. Would have the                                                                  
                          lowest cost of funds that is not                                                                      
                          subsidized.                                                                                         
573   Co-Chair Mulder     Asked how realistic is it that the change                                                             
                          could occur.                                                                                        
598   Mr. King            Emphasized that the tax change is                                                                     
                          realistic overtime, but he could not                                                                  
                          anticipate when it would occur.                                                                     
643   Ms. Gould           Stressed that they have been effective at                                                             
                          working with the Congressional delegation.                                                            
                          Stressed that the Legislature can send a                                                              
                          message to the Congressional delegation.                                                            
656   Co-Chair Mulder     He asked who would be against allowing the                                                            
                          extension of tax exemption.                                                                         
      Mr. King            Observed that the IRS is cautious about                                                               
                          requests for tax exemption. Stated that                                                               
                          they need to make case that spaceports                                                                
                          constitute a compelling state interest.                                                             
724   Co-Chair Mulder     Pointed out that there is a strong                                                                    
                          argument that it would allow an                                                                       
                          opportunity to retain business in the                                                                 
                          United States. Stressed that they are                                                                 
                          competing internationally.                                                                          
740   Representative J. Are there other companies looking at the                                                                
      Davies              Kodiak Launch Complex.                                                                              
756   Ms. Gould           Stated that there are opportunities to                                                                
                          work with the military and other foreign                                                              
                          vehicles. They are working on a long term                                                             
                          marketing plan                                                                                      
812   Representative      Stated that he needed more information on                                                             
      Bunde               bonding. Questioned if there would be a                                                               
                          risk to the state.                                                                                  
848   Mr. King            Pointed out that a letter of credit is not                                                            
                          at risk for the state. The borrower has a                                                             
                          relationship with the bank. They negotiate                                                            
                          allocation of risk between them. The bank                                                             
                          makes payments on behalf of the borrower.                                                             
                          The bonds are issued by the state.                                                                    
                          Discussed the importance of alternative                                                               
                          financing to capturing the market.                                                                  
991   Mr. King            Acknowledged that there are risks to the                                                              
                          state. The risk would be if the borrower                                                              
                          and the bank both failed. Stressed that                                                               
                          they will work with the Department of                                                                 
                          Revenue and the legislature to look at                                                                
                          banks.                                                                                              
1001 Representative       Noted that the risk to state is minimal.                                                            
      Bunde                                                                                                                     
1026 Mr. King             Agreed that the risk is not zero.                                                                   
 1047 Co-Chair             Asked if the Legislature should create a                                                             
       Therriault          resolution supporting the change in the                                                              
                           tax code.                                                                                          
 1071 Ms. Gould            Noted that a resolution by the Legislature                                                           
                           would be very beneficial.                                                                          
 1120 Representative       Noted that the first Kodiak launch was not                                                           
       Austerman           a problem with local fishermen. What is                                                              
                           the normal pay back on bonds?                                                                      
 1165 Mr. King             Clarified that bonds are rarely extended                                                             
                           beyond useful life of the satellite. The                                                             
                           payoff would be within the life of the                                                               
                           satellites.                                                                                        
 1199 Mr. Price            Normal payoff would be between 3 and 10                                                              
                           years. Most would be between 5 and 7                                                                 
                           years. May be as short as a year or six                                                              
                           months.                                                                                            
  1227 Representative G. Noted that IRS code changes are mechanisms                                                             
       Davis               to reduce cost.                                                                                    
 1253 Mr. Price            Discussed competition with foreign                                                                   
                           markets.                                                                                           
 1301 Co-Chair Mulder      Asked what the state charges.                                                                      
 1311 Ms. Gould            Stated that the information is                                                                       
                           confidential. Observed that AIDEA thinks                                                             
                           that AADC over estimated their costs.                                                              
 1360 Mr. Price            Pointed out that the lower the cost the                                                              
                           lower the total package.                                                                           
 1404 Representative       Maintained that if they build it and the                                                             
       Bunde               market will come.                                                                                  
 1428 Mr. Price            Stressed that there is still a risk.                                                                 
                           Emphasized that there are challenges in                                                              
                           capturing the market.                                                                              
 1614 Mr. Price            Noted that the Kodiak Launch Complex is                                                              
                           tailored to the needs of the vehicles that                                                           
                           will be launching there                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                           ALASKA SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY FOUNDATION                                                         
 1643 JAMES KENWORTH,      Provided members with Attachment 4                                                                   
       PHD, EXECUTIVE      (Attachment 4). Pointed out that need to                                                             
       DIRECTOR, ALASKA    expand or replace exports. Only agency                                                               
       SCIENCE AND         with science and technology focus to grow                                                            
       TECHNOLOGY          economy uses incentives to get industry to                                                           
      FOUNDATION          take a longer-term view and take more                                                                 
                           risk.                                                                                              
 1723 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed the challenges facing the state                                                            
                           and the Alaska Science and Technology                                                                
                           Foundation. Need to enlarge and diversify                                                            
                           goods.                                                                                             
       Mr. Kenworth        Discussed I, Attachment 4. Salmon based                                                              
                           final products accounted for $7.3 million                                                            
                           dollars in sales. Discussed grants for                                                               
                           surimi process and salmon pin bone                                                                   
                           removal. There is a $70 thousand dollars                                                             
                           dollar grant for a Katchemak Bay oyster                                                              
                           seed project.                                                                                      
1809 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed II of Attachment 4, Replace                                                                 
                          Imports.                                                                                            
1869 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed the Petro Star Desulfurization                                                              
                          Project.                                                                                            
1901 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed III of Attachment 4, Science for                                                            
                          Alaska Benefit. Noted that there is a                                                                 
                          project to test for total dissolved solids                                                            
                          (TDS). Working on two-year project to                                                                 
                          determine TDS levels.                                                                               
1940 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed remote sensing to integrate                                                                 
                          radar data. Stressed that it could provide                                                            
                          better information to the mining industry.                                                          
1966 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed the seismology project to                                                                   
                          produce micro zone maps in Anchorage. The                                                             
                          maps can be used to determine if areas are                                                            
                          over or under built.                                                                                
1997 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed IV, Technology Infrastructure                                                               
                          for Growth. Noted the importance of early                                                             
                          risk capital for infrastructure growth.                                                               
                          Added $1.4 million in equity in 1998. The                                                             
                          Alaska Science and Technology  Foundation                                                             
                          is now capitalized at $7 million dollars.                                                           
2057 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed the creation of InvestNet. It is                                                            
                          an investor network where entrepreneurs                                                               
                          and investors can come together and                                                                   
                          investment plans created.                                                                           
2071 Mr. Kenworth         Observed that ASTF is funding K-12                                                                    
                          internet projects. Uses  volunteer labor.                                                             
                          Schools are being wired  for $10 thousand                                                             
                          dollars per school.                                                                                 
2097 Mr. Kenworth         ASTF is funding the placement of science                                                              
                          resources on the internet. Noted that                                                                 
                          Alaskan students will  have access to the                                                             
                          Sealife Center and other  museums through                                                             
                          the web.                                                                                            
2114 Mr. Kenworth         Summarized that ASTF funded 111 projects,                                                             
                          costing $13.6 million dollars. Projects                                                               
                          resulted in an additional $65 million                                                                 
                          dollars in matching money.  This included                                                             
                          $5 million dollars for  the Kodiak Launch                                                             
                          Complex. Noted that there  are $4 million                                                             
                          dollars for the University of Alaska                                                                  
                          Fairbanks coal project.                                                                             
2162 Mr. Kenworth         Observed that the percentage of ASTF's                                                                
                          total expenditures that is put into                                                                   
                          operations has declined from 32 percent to                                                            
                          8 percent.                                                                                          
2178 Mr. Kenworth         Explained that their total earnings would                                                             
                          not be known until the end of year.                                                                 
2243 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed performance measures. Discussed                                                             
                          a 1999 McDowell survey on performance                                                                 
                          measures. Observed that performance                                                                   
                          measures were previously on a per project                                                           
                           bases. They are now looking at overall                                                               
                           performance measures such as job sales.                                                              
                           Observed the survey found that 130 jobs                                                              
                           were a direct result of ASTF programs.                                                               
                           Noted that 84 percent of the grantees                                                                
                           would not have entered into projects                                                                 
                           without ASTF assistance. Added that 36                                                               
                           percent would not be in business.                                                                  
 2269 Mr. Kenworth         Observed that they need better measures                                                              
                           for knowledge projects.                                                                            
 2280 Mr. Kenworth         Spoke in support of continuing the work of                                                           
                           ASTF.                                                                                              
 2298 Representative G. Observed that ASTF is making effort to                                                                  
       Davis               improve conditions in rural Alaska.                                                                  
                           Questioned how effective they have been in                                                           
                           rural Alaska.                                                                                      
 2322 Mr. Kenworth         Discussed wastewater disposal in rural                                                               
                           Alaska. Discussed Review Board with                                                                  
                           Department of Environmental Conservation                                                             
                          and Public Health.                                                                                  
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 036   Mr. Kenworth        Discussed efforts to improve rural Alaska                                                            
                           through rural power projects.                                                                      
 165   Representative      Complaints that ASTF is placing money in                                                             
       Bunde               failing projects. Asked what is being done                                                           
                           to assure repayment.                                                                               
 201   Mr. Kenworth        Stressed that 5 percent of the gross goes                                                            
                           back to the endowment. Noted that they                                                               
                           send annual surveys to grantees.                                                                   
 302   Representative      Asked if other states have similar                                                                   
       Bunde               programs.                                                                                          
 344   Mr. Kenworth        Stated that 48 other states have similar                                                             
                           programs. Noted that a few are inactive.                                                             
                           Most were started in early 80's.                                                                   
 370   Co-Chair            Asked if there is a mechanism for deposing                                                           
       Therriault          equipment.                                                                                         
 399   Mr. Kenworth        Explained that ASTF deposes equipment when                                                           
                           the Board receives a report from staff.                                                              
                           Most of the time the equipment goes back                                                             
                           to the grantee.                                                                                    
 474   Representative      Asked if other states finance science and                                                            
       Kohring             technology.                                                                                        
 531   Mr. Kenworth        Noted that some states have science and                                                              
                           technology commissions, some encourage                                                               
                           science and technology through their                                                                 
                           universities, and some have separate                                                                 
                           agencies that are concerned with science                                                             
                           and technology issues. Discussed makeup of                                                           
                           programs in other states. They are state                                                             
                           government funded programs.                                                                        
 671   Representative      Questioned the benefits of science and                                                               
       Kohring             technology in terms of jobs and dollars                                                              
                           generate.                                                                                          
714   Mr. Kenworth        Stated that current impact of ASTF is                                                                 
                          documented on page 3 of Attachment 4.                                                                 
                          Stressed that the impact is good, but                                                                 
                          needs to keep growing.                                                                              
820   Representative J. Expressed support for the Alaska Science                                                                
      Davies              and Technology Foundation.                                                                          
843   Representative G. Observed that the Kodiak Launch Complex is                                                              
       Davis               requesting an additional $5 million                                                                  
                          dollars.                                                                                            
889   Mr. Kenworth        Noted that the Board of ASTF received the                                                             
                          AIDEA review in their last meeting. He                                                                
                          noted that the Board would be glad to                                                                 
                          receive an application for the balance of                                                             
                          funds. Discussed conditions and issues                                                                
                          that would need to be worked out to make                                                              
                          sure that this is the last piece of state                                                             
                          money needed to for the capital program.                                                            
923   Co-Chair            Discussed the creation of a letter to the                                                             
      Therriault          Congressional delegation supporting a                                                                 
                          change in the tax code.                                                                             
1010 Co-Chair Mulder      ADJOURNMENT                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                          The meeting adjourned at 3:29 p.m.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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